28 May
2020
28 May
'20
12:37 a.m.
Hi,
I created a little tool that provides packaging for NEST extension modules
into python packages that can be `pip installed` on the target machine.
https://pip-nest.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
First off, is this interesting to the community? It certainly seems easier
to `pip install some-module` than to provide installation instructions, and
I can now specify my modules as dependencies in code I distribute.
Secondly, there are some shortcomings based on the fact that the pip
install only reliably produces the build artifacts into python's
site-packages and nest doesn't look for them there. This can probably only
be elegantly solved by adding an `entry_point` to the nest python module so
that these pip nest modules can announce themselves there?
--
Robin De Schepper, MSc
Department of Brain and Behavioral Sciences
Unit of Neurophysiology
University of Pavia, Italy
Via Forlanini 6, 27100 Pavia - Italy
Tel: (+39) 038298-7607
http://www-5.unipv.it/dangelo/
17 Jun
17 Jun
3:05 p.m.
Dear Robin,
This is really cool! Seeing as NESTML also generates user modules, I am more than a little
interested in this feature.
To address the more technical point: does running with the user module .so path in the
LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable allow NEST to find it? Some changes are happening
with the paths—see https://github.com/nest/nest-simulator/pull/1578—but the use of
LD_LIBRARY_PATH will, as far as I'm aware, be the recommended approach to locate user
modules. This contrasts with having a single "predefined" user module
installation directory (e.g. "/home/charl/.local/lib/nest/user_modules") that is
retrieved by invoking nest-config. Will the first option fit into the workflow of someone
who wants to install a pipnest-generated package? What is the workaround that you came up
with?
Cheers,
Charl
On Thu, May 28, 2020, at 00:37, Robin Gilbert De Schepper wrote:
Hi,
I created a little tool that provides packaging for NEST extension modules into python
packages that can be `pip installed` on the target machine.
https://pip-nest.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
First off, is this interesting to the community? It certainly seems easier to `pip
install some-module` than to provide installation instructions, and I can now specify my
modules as dependencies in code I distribute.
Secondly, there are some shortcomings based on the fact that the pip install only
reliably produces the build artifacts into python's site-packages and nest doesn't
look for them there. This can probably only be elegantly solved by adding an `entry_point`
to the nest python module so that these pip nest modules can announce themselves there?
--
Robin De Schepper, MSc
Department of Brain and Behavioral Sciences
Unit of Neurophysiology
University of Pavia, Italy
Via Forlanini 6, 27100 Pavia - Italy
Tel: (+39) 038298-7607
http://www-5.unipv.it/dangelo/
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3:40 p.m.
Hi Charl
I'm not very sure. The extension modules I used to test were both from
colleagues who I think generated them with NESTML and then adapted them.
Their cmake builds and subsequent installs both produced .so libraries in a
subfolder of the NEST installation, and it seems no manipulation of any
path is required for NEST to find them. Do not all extension modules take
care of this themselves? If not I'd require some technical guidance on
exactly how I best make them discoverable, but good news:
pipnest generates "source distributions" which are Python packages that
build their binary dependencies on the target system. If a consumer writes
"pip install pipnest-module", pip builds these source distributions and
there's a few hooks that I use (thanks to a script by Benjamin Cummings) to
turn the pip install into a CMake build. These hooks allow arbitrary code
execution (which is why `sudo pip` is a bad idea) and I hope that from
these hooks we can do what we need to cover the workflows you describe.
Il giorno mer 17 giu 2020 alle ore 15:07 Charl Linssen <
nest-users(a)turingbirds.com> ha scritto:
Dear Robin,
This is really cool! Seeing as NESTML also generates user modules, I am
more than a little interested in this feature.
To address the more technical point: does running with the user module .so
path in the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable allow NEST to find it?
Some changes are happening with the paths—see
https://github.com/nest/nest-simulator/pull/1578—but the use of
LD_LIBRARY_PATH will, as far as I'm aware, be the recommended approach to
locate user modules. This contrasts with having a single "predefined" user
module installation directory (e.g.
"/home/charl/.local/lib/nest/user_modules") that is retrieved by invoking
nest-config. Will the first option fit into the workflow of someone who
wants to install a pipnest-generated package? What is the workaround that
you came up with?
Cheers,
Charl
On Thu, May 28, 2020, at 00:37, Robin Gilbert De Schepper wrote:
Hi,
I created a little tool that provides packaging for NEST extension modules
into python packages that can be `pip installed` on the target machine.
https://pip-nest.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
First off, is this interesting to the community? It certainly seems easier
to `pip install some-module` than to provide installation instructions, and
I can now specify my modules as dependencies in code I distribute.
Secondly, there are some shortcomings based on the fact that the pip
install only reliably produces the build artifacts into python's
site-packages and nest doesn't look for them there. This can probably only
be elegantly solved by adding an `entry_point` to the nest python module so
that these pip nest modules can announce themselves there?
--
Robin De Schepper, MSc
Department of Brain and Behavioral Sciences
Unit of Neurophysiology
University of Pavia, Italy
Via Forlanini 6, 27100 Pavia - Italy
Tel: (+39) 038298-7607
http://www-5.unipv.it/dangelo/
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Robin De Schepper, MSc
Department of Brain and Behavioral Sciences
Unit of Neurophysiology
University of Pavia, Italy
Via Forlanini 6, 27100 Pavia - Italy
Tel: (+39) 038298-7607
http://www-5.unipv.it/dangelo/
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